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Putin debunks Tucker Carlson’s warmongering anti-China propaganda, mocks his CIA ties

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin condemned the “boogeyman” anti-China propaganda that Trump ally Tucker Carlson spewed in his interview in Moscow, while mocking the ex Fox News host for applying to join the CIA.

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The US TV host Tucker Carlson set off a political scandal by traveling to Moscow this February to interview Russian President Vladimir Putin.

This provoked a debate in the media, which – as is so often the case in partisan US politics – completely missed the forest for the trees.

Liberal war hawks like Hillary Clinton portrayed Tucker Carlson as a traitor and “useful idiot” of Putin.

Democrats have been blinded by their obsessive hatred of Russia, and are utterly incapable of seeing what is happening geopolitically.

In reality, Carlson and other Donald Trump allies in the Republican Party have tried for years to drive a wedge in between Russia and China, while maniacally pushing for war on Beijing.

Trump’s former top advisor Steve Bannon, who ran the far-right leader’s 2016 presidential campaign, stated openly in 2018: “We’re at war with China”.

Bannon called to “unite the West against the rise of a totalitarian China”. And he considers Russia to be part of the “West”.

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This strategy was also adopted by France’s far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who stated in 2022 that she wanted to improve relations with Russia in order to prevent it from allying with China.

The Trumpist Republicans and their far-right counterparts in Europe see Russia as white, European, Christian, and capitalist, and a potential ally against China, which they demonize as a non-white, Asiatic, atheistic, and communist threat to so-called “Judeo-Christian Western civilization”.

Carlson has played a key role in this warmongering campaign against China.

When he had his prime-time show on Fox News, Carlson declared, “Russia is not America’s main enemy. Obviously, no sane person thinks it is. Our main enemy, of course, is China. And the United States ought to be in a relationship with Russia, aligned against China”.

The narrative that Carlson is “anti-war” is totally false. The reason that he opposes the proxy war against Russia in Ukraine is simply because he wants all resources focused on war with China.

Carlson insisted on his Fox program, “The biggest threat to this country is not Vladimir Putin; that’s ludicrous. The biggest threat, obviously, is China”.

The far-right TV host is afraid that a China-Russia alliance would end US hegemony over the planet, which the close Trump ally wants to preserve.

“If Russia ever joins forces with China, American global hegemony, its power, would end instantly”, Carlson lamented. “If Russia and China ever got together, it would be a brand new world, and the United States would be greatly diminished. Most Americans agree that would be bad”.

Since he was fired from Fox News in 2023, Carlson has continued pushing this same warmongering narrative: that the US should ally with Russia against China.

In his February interview with Putin, however, the Russian leader could clearly see that Carlson is a political operative acting on behalf of the Republican Party and Trump, and that they hope to encourage division between Moscow and its most important ally.

Putin pushed back against Carlson’s hysterical anti-China narratives, which he referred to as mere “boogeyman stories”.

The Russian president emphasized that China wants peaceful cooperation, and that “China’s foreign policy philosophy is not aggressive”.

The following is a transcript of the February 6 exchange:

TUCKER CARLSON: The question is what comes next? And maybe you trade one colonial power for another, much less sentimental and forgiving colonial power. I mean, is the BRICS, for example, in danger of being completely dominated by the Chinese, the Chinese economy, in a way that’s not good for their sovereignty? Do you worry about that?

VLADIMIR PUTIN: We have heard those boogeyman stories before. It is a boogeyman story.

We’re neighbors with China. You cannot choose neighbors, just as you cannot choose close relatives. We share a border of a thousand kilometers with them. This is number one.

Second, we have a centuries long history of coexistence. We’re used to it.

Third, China’s foreign policy philosophy is not aggressive. Its idea is to always look for a compromise. And we can see that.

The next point is as follows. We’re always told the same boogeyman story, and here it goes again, through a euphemistic form, but it is still the same boogeyman story.

The cooperation with China keeps increasing. The pace at which China’s cooperation with Europe is growing. It’s higher and greater than that of the growth of Chinese-Russian cooperation.

Ask Europeans. Are they afraid? They might be. I don’t know. But they are still trying to access China’s market at all costs. Especially now that they are facing economic problems.

Chinese businesses are also exploring the European market.

Do Chinese businesses have small presence in the United States? Yes.

The political decisions are such that they are trying to limit the cooperation with China.

It is to your own detriment, Mr. Tucker, that you are limiting cooperation with China. You are hurting yourself.

As Putin made clear, the Republicans have failed to isolate China from Russia and divide BRICS.

The irony is that the Democratic Party’s hysteria over the Russiagate conspiracy, combined with the war in Ukraine, prevented the Trumpist elements from realizing this strategy.

(Washington’s failure to divide Russia from China has only further incentivized the United States to focus heavily on allying with India’s far-right government, seeking to provoke conflict between New Delhi and Beijing. Both Trump and Joe Biden have sought to woo India.)

Carlson’s bellicose anti-China rhetoric was not mere red meat for his typical Fox News conservative audience. Since he was fired, Carlson has continued churning out this cartoonish propaganda as an independent broadcaster.

On February 2, just four days before he interviewed Putin, Carlson published a video claiming that China is “fueling the invasion of America”. The implication was that war would on Beijing would be justified in response to a supposed Chinese communist-backed “invasion”.

In November 2023, Carlson released an interview with Trump, in which both fearmongered about Beijing.

“Why is China allowed to conduct imperialism in our hemisphere?” Carlson asked.

Trump replied, “Yeah, and it’s far beyond Cuba; it’s all over South America”. The former US president then claimed, without a shred of evidence, that “China is building military installations in Cuba”.

Carlson is a personal friend of Trump, and acts as a propagandist for the former president and his faction of the Republican Party.

But their relationship goes deeper than friendship. In fact, Trump has publicly said that he has considered Carlson to run with him to be vice president of the United States.

This is especially relevant considering that Trump may very well win this year’s presidential election. Most polls show that he is leading over Biden, including in critical swing states.

As he campaigns for president, Trump has pledged to implement extremely aggressive anti-China policies. The Washington Post reported, citing his advisors, that “Trump is preparing for a massive new trade war with China”, and wants to impose 60% tariffs on all imports of Chinese goods into the US.

When asked about this on Fox News, Trump floated tariffs even higher than 60%, stating, “I would say maybe it’s going to be more than that”.

Historically, economic wars of this magnitude often lead to military conflict. So Trump’s hawkish anti-China policies could escalate into a conventional war.

In addition to being a close ally of Trump, Carlson has used his large post-Fox personal media platform to promote the Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. Together, they demonized China and fearmongered about war over Taiwan.

Ramaswamy has campaigned on a Trumpist and Carlsonian foreign policy platform, arguing that the US should ally with Russia in order to try to isolate China.

Ironically, this strategy advocated by Trump, Bannon, Ramaswamy, and Carlson was also previously promoted by Henry Kissinger.

Back in the Richard Nixon administration in the 1970s, Kissinger used “triangular diplomacy” to play China against the Soviet Union. Washington’s alliance then with Beijing was a significant factor that led to the destabilization and eventually overthrow of the USSR.

In 2018, Kissinger called for returning to this triangular diplomacy, but in the opposite direction. The Daily Beast reported, “Henry Kissinger suggested to President Donald Trump that the United States should work with Russia to contain a rising China”.

Putin mocks Tucker Carlson for applying to join the CIA

With the rise of Donald Trump and his far-right movement, Tucker Carlson tried to rebrand himself as a so-called populist.

But Carlson was always blue-blooded media royalty. His middle name is Swanson, and his stepmother was the heiress of the eponymous food corporation.

The scion of a powerful, wealthy, politically connected family, Carlson started his media career as a neoconservative hawk, churning out diehard pro-war articles for the notorious neocon bible the Weekly Standard.

Carlson was soon kicked upstairs, in the 2000s, to host shows at CNN and MSNBC, before later moving to Fox News.

In the Trump era, Carlson has marketed himself as a paleoconservative, condemning neoconservatives to try to score points with “populists”. But back during the George W. Bush administration, Carlson was a card-carrying neocon.

Carlson eagerly supported the illegal US invasion of Iraq, using crude, neocolonial, racist talking points.

As The Daily Beast wrote (emphasis added):

Tucker Carlson described Iraqis as “semiliterate primitive monkeys” in past comments made on the Bubba The Love Sponge radio show, according to new audio recordings uncovered by Media Matters. The Fox News host also claimed Iraqis don’t “behave like human beings” and said he had “zero sympathy” for Iraqis or their culture during a May 2006 discussion of the Iraq War on the popular radio show. “A culture where people just don’t use toilet paper or forks,” Carlson said—adding that Iraqis should “ just shut the fuck up and obey” the U.S. because “they can’t govern themselves.” In a Sept. 2009 episode, Carlson also proclaimed that Afghanistan would never be a “civilized country because the people aren’t civilized.”

In fact, Carlson was such a dedicated Reaganite and cold warrior that, back when he was in college, he applied to join the CIA.

Journalist Alan Macleod showed how, in the 1980s, Carlson traveled to Nicaragua to support the CIA’s far-right death squads, the Contras, in their terror war against the revolutionary Sandinista government.

Tucker’s father, Richard “Dick” Carlson, was the director of Voice of America, a US government propaganda outlet that is closely linked to the CIA and other spy agencies.

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Russian intelligence clearly knew about Carlson’s CIA ties. So when he interviewed Putin in February, the Russian leader mocked Carlson for having applied to join the notorious US spy agency, which Putin emphasized had organized many coups d’etat and meddled in the internal affairs of countless foreign countries.

The following is a transcript of the exchange:

TUCKER CARLSON: With the backing of whom?

VLADIMIR PUTIN: With the backing of CIA, of course. The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand.

We should thank God they didn’t let you in. Although it is a serious organization, I understand.

My former vis-à-vis, in the sense that I served in the first main directorate, the Soviet Union’s intelligence service.

They have always been our opponents. A job is a job.

Tucker Carlson’s neocolonial views on Latin America

Although he criticizes neocons today, Carlson’s foreign policy regarding Latin America is decidedly neoconservative, and neocolonial.

Carlson routinely treats Latin America as the US “backyard”, and frequently complains that China is supposedly trying to “take over” and even colonize “our hemisphere”.

In 2022, when he was still at Fox News, Carlson traveled to Brazil to produce a propaganda documentary for far-right leader Jair Bolsonaro, who was staunchly pro-US and anti-China.

In effect, Carlson was meddling in Brazil’s election, seeking to prevent the return to power of leftist Lula da Silva (who went on to win the 2022 vote).

In the promotional video that Carlson made for Bolsonaro, he invoked the 200-year-old, explicitly colonial Monroe Doctrine, in order to fearmonger about China’s bilateral, consensual relations with Latin American nations – and to justify increasingly aggressive US interventionism in the region.

The Fox News host declared (emphasis added):

In 1823, President James Monroe announced a policy that has been the center of American foreign policy for the last 200 years. Called the Monroe Doctrine, it has a very simple thesis: Great powers would not be allowed to control nations in the Western hemisphere. That would be a direct threat to the interests of the United States. And for 200 years, we haven’t allowed it.

Under the Biden administration, the Monroe Doctrine is no longer enforced.

Constrained by its ideological concerns, consumed with petty political grievances and above all, distracted by a faraway war in Eastern Europe [ie, against Russia in Ukraine], the Biden administration has abdicated its responsibility.

And into the void left by the United States moves a new superpower.

We’ve come to Brazil to see for ourselves the rise of China, and how the government of China is replacing the United States as the dominant power in our hemisphere.

Washington’s bipartisan imperialism

This anti-China, pro-colonial diatribe was a stark reminder that Carlson is in fact an ardent advocate for US imperialism.

Carlson is not opposed to war on principle. He only criticizes the US proxy war against Russia because he wants to focus the entire attention of the US empire for war on China.

Carlson is co-opting many well-intentioned people who don’t want war on Russia, and brainwashing them to want war on China.

However, US liberals’ hysteria over the Russiagate conspiracy has blinded them to this reality.

Of course, in Washington there is bipartisan opposition to China. But the Democrats are more fixated on Russia now, in the short time, while referring to China as a “long-term threat”.

Republicans, led by Trump and Carlson, want to put aside differences with Russia and dedicate all of the US empire’s resources into containing, weakening, and ultimately overthrowing the Communist Party of China.

Both dominant US political parties are thoroughly imperialist. Their fight is not about whether the US should be an empire; rather, their debate is about what is the best strategy to preserve the US empire.

Carlson and Trump share much in common politically with neocons and liberal-interventionist hawks, whom they sometimes criticize for “populist” credit.

What unites them all is their desire to strengthen the US empire and maintain Washington’s unipolar hegemony over the planet.

This is precisely why Tucker Carlson warned with terror, back on his Fox News show, “If Russia ever joins forces with China, American global hegemony, its power, would end instantly”.

25 Comments

25 Comments

  1. Rubicon

    2024-02-10 at 12:09

    Thanks Ben. We in the US had no idea that the likeable Tucker was and probably remains a Neo-Con. This explains why he interviewed Argentina’s new prez, along with that rabid Indian: Vivek R.
    Perhaps most interesting is that his father headed “Voice Of America; that Carlson applied to become a CIA Agent, while Tucker’s step-grandmother owned Swanson.
    With your background of Tucker, we now understand why Putin called out Tucker via the CIA. It’s likely, Tucker wasn’t expecting that from President Putin.
    Putin knows everything. It’s why Tucker went into the interview looking like a deer seeing the headlights of a car and trying to scamper away. 🙂

    • Eric Arthur Blair

      2024-02-10 at 14:19

      Hmmm. It appears Rubicon/Ponzi is actually capable of a modicum of insight. So perhaps not a 100% Dunning Krugerite after all.
      Here is something I wrote (with fun graphics) previously, which emphasizes exactly what Ben highlighted: the fact that #uckers behaviour (pretending to make nice with Russia, while simultaneously inflaming rabid Sinophobia) represents the psyops of one cheek of the US backside (the other cheek being Russophobia psyops).
      https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/8yxbk3x8poae60jxm299m/TheMushroomPrinciple-Part2.pdf?rlkey=wktk999sp4hr9ulvzczdwh7ym&dl=1

      • JonnyJames

        2024-02-10 at 15:20

        Good points listed in the link you provided Eric, thanks for posting.

        BTW, based on Rubicon’s other comments, he may not be the person you think. He/she appears genuine. I agree with the post above.

    • Cure E Us

      2024-02-11 at 19:51

      Warmongering Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin conveniently omitted United States’ complicity to atrocities (such as current U.S. Israeli sponsorship). Tucker is adept at distracting the American public and the world. His interview was strategically planned while Mr. Putin’s responses were extemporaneous (Putin doesn’t need a teleprompter like Joe Biden or Donald Trump).

      The U.S. is ultimately responsible for the distress, wickedness and damage (dread) in Ukraine. It was the United States that essentially brought disaster, misfortune and ruin (blight) to Ukraine. The United States and its vassals organized the illegal seizure of power in the 2014 Maidan (Coup). Therefore, and in consideration of the dastardly deeds perpetrated by the United States, a modification to the “Stars and Stripes” must be contemplated.

      The colors of the “Stars and Stripes” – a symbol or emblem of the United States – are: “Red, White and Blue”. In light of the aforementioned U.S. misdeeds, is it reasonable to at least consider a proxy for the “Red, White and Blue” moniker with a designation that more closely embodies the USA? Why not the: “Dread, Blight and Coup”?

  2. JonnyJames

    2024-02-10 at 14:28

    On a gut-level emotrional reaction: I can’t stand Carlson. His phony make-up, perfect coiffure and celebrity status are indicators of a filthy rich media celebrity out to boost his own publicity and make even more money.

    Ben did an excellent job of exposing Carlson’s China/Iran bashing hypocrisy, and lack of knowledge. Vladimir Putin did a great job as well.

    Carlson is a great tool to provide a fake “opposition” to the JB regime. He is also a great example of a cowardly warmonger who wants others to go fight while he makes a killing.

    It is disappointing to see many otherwise intelligent people praise Carlson and think he is “brave”. The phony opposition love him and they love Trump – Trump/Carlson et al. provide distraction, and an illusion of choice. So, which senile, mendacious, amoral sociopath freak are you going to “vote” for?

    • Cure E Us

      2024-02-10 at 15:44

      I still have an aversion to Tucker Carlson that I can’t shake. Yes, I’ll give him credit for implementing this interview; however, Tucker is establishment at heart. His attempt to look serious during interviews seems to convey a spurious characteristic. He’s still imbued with FOX to me, and that kind of shit is difficult for even Mr. Clean to remove. He’s cunning and scheming and has contributed to too many burnt bridges. I think he’s just another capitalist opportunist. The decline is gaining momentum and can’t be stopped.

      • JonnyJames

        2024-02-12 at 12:39

        You are too kind, Cure E US. I give him no credit at all for this interview stunt, other than it exposed his gross hypocrisy, and ignorance. He, like his narcissist buddy, DT, is merely out to increase his own publicity and wealth.

        As Ben outlined, dude is a stuff-shirt coward, and warmonger – he supports genocide and mass murder in Venezuela and Palestine ffs. He can go fuck off and count his 100s of millions, while he has his makeup and hair done.

        • Cure E Us

          2024-02-12 at 14:56

          There was no kindness afforded to the huckster: Tucker Carlson. The credit I referred to related to the degree of involvement in Tucker’s facilitation of a dialogue with Vladimir Putin (this was a non-edited opportunity for the world to experience an opposing narrative). Putin, and his cabinet, would not agree to this interview without some form of strategic benefit – Tucker helped to provide a platform and also suited their agenda.

          Washington’s irrational thinking-tanks will discretionarily evaluate the degree of damage indirectly fostered by Tucker (e.g.- China did it, Russia did it, Iran did it, it wasn’t me…) and may declare Tucker culpable – this might be in the proximity of Julian Assange.

          It’s generally free to speculate; therefore, some consequential U.S. state’ blowback may be accumulating for Tucker Carlson. I don’t believe in Karma, but if Karma is looking for a place to happen, there appears to be ample available real estate.

          • JonnyJames

            2024-02-12 at 15:34

            Fair enough, I see your point. However, I doubt that TC will suffer much. He is far too wealthy. Despite the MassMediaCartel fluff-criticism, he serves to perpetuate the illusion of choice. He, like his buddy DT, is quite useful in that regard.

            No matter who becomes the next pres, the long-term anti-China (pivot to Asia), anti-Iran, pro-Israel etc. policies will continue. The pro-oligarchy, anti-labor kleptocratic oligarchy will prevail as well as the worsening institutional corruption. I don’t want to be so negative, but I don’t see any evidence that indicates a positive outcome. (BTW, Oliver Stone did a much better job)

  3. Corney Korokan ALONE

    2024-02-10 at 17:46

    Excellent and piercing writing, Ben.
    Your detailed expose shattered the “white is right” nonsense between the Amerikkkans and European far-right warmongering crowd with a falsified sense of superiority entitlement.
    Keep that flame spontaneously high as always.

    ##
    Reactions from a citizen of the Global Majority.
    South Pacific Islands, Papua New Guinea

    • Eric Arthur Blair

      2024-02-13 at 07:43

      Mr Korokan from PNG:
      We need to hear more from folks like yourself. More and more the views of the Global Majority will prevail, and oppressive Imperialist thuggery, hypocrisy and deceit will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
      Even on “airstrip three” where I live, the phoney edifice is starting to crack. Onward to the multipolar world, with win-win, mutually respectful, negotiated outcomes between nations!!

  4. Ziggy

    2024-02-11 at 16:37

    “If Russia ever joins forces with China, American global hegemony, its power, would end instantly” I reckon that would be a good thing… for every one!!!

    • Cure E Us

      2024-02-12 at 23:06

      Ziggy, your reckoning is right on time. You may want to take a look at this:
      Towards a New Military Alliance? Russia -China -Iran -North Korea
      https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-warsaw-pact-russia-china-iran-north-korea/5842202

    • Rubicon

      2024-02-15 at 12:21

      Carlson- “If Russia ever joins forces with China….” Future tense. Sorry to inform Carlson, but in the last 2 years, Russia has grown substantially by producing far more grains/agriculture, technology, and mineral resources while shipping those products to non-Western countries. Ditto for China. Both have adopted the same US playbook as it became an industrial nation. But “neo-liberalism stopped all that beginning in the 1970s w/TINA.
      How very ironic that Carlson paid little heed to this new reality. But that’s what ideologues do.

  5. Cure E Us

    2024-02-12 at 16:19

    RE: “I don’t want to be so negative.” & “He is far too wealthy.”

    No. Quite the opposite. I think your negativity is positively based.

    Speaking of DT and TC, and far too wealthy, consider the following research: “Donald Trump’s ego may be the size of his financial empire, but that doesn’t mean he’s the picture of mental health. The same can be said about the self-esteem of people who are living from paycheck to paycheck, or unemployed. New research from UC Berkeley underscores this mind-wallet connection.” https://news.berkeley.edu/2014/12/09/dominancebehavior

  6. bill wolfe

    2024-02-13 at 08:32

    Very good Ben – on clarification: Tucker and Bannon really have the same fundamental strategy as Kissinger, which is to prevent the unification of Russia and China, but they come at it from different angles, no?

    • JonnyJames

      2024-02-14 at 10:59

      Bill W: TC, DT, SB et al. as well as the so-called neocons, as well as the late Henry K. Zbig B. (so-called Realist School of IR) et al. ALL share the same long-term goal: maintain US hegemony at all costs. They just differ on the tactics.

    • Cure E Us

      2024-02-14 at 14:50

      Tucker didn’t respect the process enough to properly prepare for the Putin interview. He’s as much a fool as his ridiculous expressions conveyed.

      All you get from the West is continuous subterfuge and belligerence. Here’s an example of why the United States (the rulership is responsible for this), has devolved into a mishmash of dysfunction that is unwilling to negotiate with competent leaders, such as Mr. Putin:

      “Only the United States had the power to guarantee global security: without our presence or support, multilateral endeavors would fail.”
      Starting with Albright, the term “indispensable,” sometimes in combination with the “exceptional,” was and still is used by the by-partisan army of politicians and self-described patriots who are pushing the hegemonic unipolar agenda and some peculiar “rules-based order,” which only Washington has the right to interpret.
      For example, during a February 1988 interview on the “Today Show,” Albright said: “If we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall, see further than other countries into the future, and see the danger here to all of us.” https://original.antiwar.com/Edward_Lozansky/2024/02/13/indispensable-nation-or-one-obsessed-with-hegemony/

      • Eric Arthur Blair

        2024-02-15 at 16:27

        Third Reich Nazis were the self declared “Master Race”, indicating that all others were subhuman, the untermenschen.
        YankeeNazis are the self proclaimed “Exceptional Indispensibles” indicating that all others are mediocre disposables.
        Zionist AshkeNAZIs are the self chosen “Chosen Ones” indicating that all others are human animal untermenschen mediocre disposables.
        Today the Global Majority are saying to all of the above:
        Go f*ck yourself, we will build a better world with BRICS.

        • Cure E Us

          2024-02-15 at 22:52

          RE:Today the Global Majority are saying to all of the above:
          Go f*ck yourself, we will build a better world with BRICS.

          This works for me, Eric! It’s either some form of sane socialism and genuine respect for all, or continued capitalist insanity and barbarism, leading to misery and death.

  7. Corney Korokan ALONE

    2024-02-14 at 18:19

    This is a recommended viewing (and re-viewing) for:
    1. all citizens of the developing countries.
    2. all historically black colleges and universities
    3. all universities in the 151 countries, who are signatories to
    China’s Belt and Road Initiative

    4. Then watch this as an additional resource https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmtIKvHCKmE&t=148s
    Well done Benjamin Norton for a scalpel-precision level journalism that you continue to demonstrate.

    • Cure E Us

      2024-02-15 at 00:34

      Good points, Corney K.

      I watched a portion, and when I heard “Congo”, I recalled the horrific regime of King Leopold of Belgium. Those of you who are not aware of the atrocities perpetrated by this King should read a few accounts about this man.

      It is not too difficult to understand the evolution of current Western ideology when you consider it is a derivative of Roman/Iberian/Dutch/British world orders. United States’ imperial doctrine, and its condoning/sponsorship of Israeli barbarity, is another example.

      Here is King Leopold II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State

  8. El pedo

    2024-02-17 at 19:16

    What is incredible is how such figures who pose as leftists, take Greenwald or Dore, the latter not too sophisticated, and how they fawn over these right wing crazies like Tucker whose job, as you eloquently said, is an operative.

    Tucker is also a member of the very secretive Council non National Policy, a theocratic organization that pushes theocratic fascism.

    In fact, Tucker is part of the faschistization of the US.

    That outlets posing as progressive would take this little Swanson TV dinner heir seriously shows the deep fissures of Machiavellian thinking.

    There is a new Third Position developing among liberal podcasters and grifters and fascists.

    History regarding the Third Position is important now.

    Chop Berlet, long time editor and for Political Research Associates noted in 2016:

    “In the last few years of the 20th Century a new form of fascism emerged in a period of resurgent neofascism. Called the Third Position, it seeks to overthrow existing governments and replace them with monocultural nation states built around the idea of supremacist racial nationalism and/or supremacist religious nationalism.

    Third Position neofascists have organized in the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East, and they maintain some kind of loose network, at least for the purposes of discussing their shared ideas and agenda, but in some cases involving meetings and even funding.

    For instance, Libyan president of Mu’ammar Qadhafi sponsored several international conferences in Libya promoting his special variation of racial nationalism and cultivating ideas congruent with Third Position ideology. Qadhafi also offered funds to racial nationalist groups active in the U.S. and Canada.1 During the Gulf War, according to the Searchlight magazine, “Neo-nazis is several European countries have been queuing up to shoulder arms for Saddam Hussein’s murderous Iraqi Regime.”2

    One organizer for this attempted neonazi brigade, claimed he had over 500 volunteers from “several countries, including Germany, the USA, the Netherlands, Austria and France.”3 Revealing the Third Position motif, a racial nationalist journal, Nation und Europa, promoted the slogans “Arabia for the Arabs,” and “the whole of Germany for the Germans.”4 In Britain, some neofascists praised the regimes in Libya and Iran as allies in the fight against communism, capitalism, and Israel.5

    The Third Position has a more intellectual aristocratic ally called the European New Right (Nouvelle Droit ) which is different from the U.S. New Right.6 Intellectual leaders of the European New Right, such as Alain de Benoist, are hailed as profound thinkers in U.S. reactionary publications such as the Rockford Institute’s Chronicles.

    The more overtly neo-Nazi segment of the Third Position has intellectual links to the Strasserite wing of German national socialism, and is critical of Hitler’s brand of Nazism for having betrayed the working class.

    See magazines such as Scorpion or Third Way published in England. Third Position groups believe in a racially-homogeneous decentralized tribal form of nationalism, and claim to have evolved an ideology “beyond communism and capitalism.”

    White supremacist leader Tom Metzger promotes Third Position politics in his newspaper WAR which stands for White Aryan Resistance.”

    https://politicalresearch.org/2016/12/19/what-third-position

    Tucker is part of this Third Position which is why he can easily skate over to Orban’s and then to Bolsonaro.

    And of course his interviews bring him millions.

    But he is the throne sniffer for the Donald and fascism, no doubt.

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